Hi,
I have just returned from Hanoi to the UK and am interested in spending more time there.
Are there any jobs there for qualified teachers that allow for a high standard of living?
Also for those of you out there who are teaching, what are the conditions like out there.
Here is a brief description of my qualifications.
Degree in Economics.
3 Years teaching experience from ages 11 up to A level in Mathematics (HMI grade 2 level).
Experience of management (KS3 leader).
Conversational Vietnamese (northen).
Any advice is welcome including websites to do research.
Many thanks.
Dinh
dinh posted about 13 months ago to Other. Viewed 58 times. Answered 12 times.
Yes, there is a huge demand for teachers, especially business/corporate teachers as your qualifications lend to ... and a plethora of schools to work for, some good, some not so good, and some very not so good.
"high standard of living" By western standards, far from it; by local Vietnamese standards, not too bad. Let's face it, teachers have never been,and never will be able to enjoy a high standard of living. Question the sanity of those few like me who make teaching their life long profession.
A major cavat though ... by your post and signature, I'm going to guess that you're overseas Vietnamese. This'll through a major obstacle in your way getting premium jobs, but not an insurmountable one.
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So far, there really isn't a dedicated website for EFL teachers in Vietnam. (a major opportunity for someone with the right technical skills, connections,and free time)
The closest thing at the moment is this:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewforum.php?f=14
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and this:
http://www.saigonesl.com/
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You will more than likely need a CELTA and if you are not a native English speaker and want to land the good deals you will need an IELTS score of 8 (or TOEFL equivalent)
http://www.esolasia.com covers most of the jobs available in Vietnam.
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Thanks for your replies.
To clarify my status I was born in Hong Kong and moved to the UK in 1980, I have full UK qualifications (A levels, degree and PGCE) and am a native English speaker with British citizenship.
By good standard of living I mean the equivalent standard that a £30k salary in the UK would give me (half decient apartment and the ability to eat and drink out quite often etc).
I am also looking at Hong Kong as my current school has links out there already but my school is trying to build links all over the world.
www.djanogly.notts.sch.uk
Dinh
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Try the International Schools
In Hanoi - HIS or UNIS
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Try Uniworld or Kinderworld. They have ads here on New Hanoian, and they just put out a full page ad in the Vietnam News saying they will basically take anybody who can string a sentence together. If you have experience teaching, you are probably more qualified than half the staff they have there already!
Other than that, try Cleverlearn. They take anyone who speaks good English. The certificate seems to be a secondary requirement.
Good luck!
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You have a PGCE, British Citizenship and are an experienceed maths teacher?
Forget English Teaching.
The International Schools will sell their first born and/or their left nut to get their hands on you for their Maths and Science Departments.
Granted, you're not going to make £30k in Vietnam like you could possible do in Hong Kong. But the cost of living is lower here ... for now ...
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Thanks for all the advice, do any of the places mentioned teach the british system with GCSE's etc? That's the system that I know well.
Are there any teachers here that teach at an international school, it would be nice to here of your experience in a classroom, working hours, class sizes, classroom resources (I'm quite lucky here in the UK, class size is never abouve 26 and I can pretty much photocopy what I want and have the faculty assistant do it for me and have 1 to 1 computer proviosion when I need it).
Also what is the cost of renting a small apartment out there comparative with the expected salary, here in the UK I spend about half my salary on outgoings before I eat.
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The one (international school that follows the British system and teaches towards the IGCSE's) that springs to mind is Hanoi International School.
www.hisvietnam.com
If you're at all familar with the IB system, there's UNIS. United Nations International School.
www.unishanoi.org
... and lots of links to International schools throughout Vietnam from this webpage:
www.english-schools.org/vietnam/hanoi-international-school.htm
Email anyone of those schools and they'll be more than happy to connect you with their current teachers, who then can fill you in.
Maths Teachers are a rare and valuable commodity for the International Schools.
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You sound like you want to be comfortable within this environment. it is possible to maintain the same UK standards, but it means you won't really have a real Vn experience. This place works better if you take certain verbs out of your vocab and accept more of what this place has. You cna eat of a plate wiped clean with a rag between customers...the most delicious food. You can drink out of a plastic straw washed in cold water between customers...the most delicious chilled cane juice. You can pass the rose sellers and step over an open drain carrying a dozen fragrant roses you bought for two dollars. You cna sit on a blue plastic stool while the levels of carbon monoxide are 200 times above acceptable levels...and the noise of the bikes makes you deaf to conversation;;;while drinking coffee so thick and rich you could swear it is melted chocolate. This is a place where you have to drop the accessories and get real. If you stay long enough you become more earthed than you have ever been in your life.
If you decide to try to maintain UK standards...bring medical kit, insurance. expect to pay $1,000 USD minimum for a house.Also $800 plus to hire a car and driver for the month as motorbike traffic is nothing like UK.
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Thank you farside for reminding me why I continue persist this 'profession' despite the laughable pay, high-stress work environment, the alcoholicKhao San road workmates, etc ... and why I continue to reject the so-called normality of a 9 to 5 job back in the 'real world'.
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